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Elon Musk's Twitter is a spectacle and the drama and meaning of the last six months is perhaps best unpacked by Yoel Roth. The company’s former head of trust and safety survived the early flood of firings and resignations — in fact he was ascendant in the early days of this new Twitter and he became the face Musk presented to advertisers. Kara asks Roth whether he felt “used” by Musk and why — having been embraced by Elon’s inner circle — he ultimately decided to abandon Elon.  Before the interview Kara and Nayeema weigh in on Elon Musk’s seeming needling of Tim Cook and they discuss whether Apple has too much power. Stay tuned until the end for Kara’s rant on this very topic. You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why Twitter’s Former Safety Chief Left Elon Musk

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